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James Earl
11-17-2005, 08:35 AM
I was looking into gettting one of these last year.

http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/images/208_SS7000XLT.JPG


http://www.americanautomotiveequipment.com/pages/831661/index.htm

I found one that needed only 9 feet of room to stack 2 cars in a garage. It was about $3000 new and did not need any extra work done to the garage floor. I think all I would have had to do was get 220 V set up in the garage. My garage has a high roof so I could have easily used it for working on the car.

Most people I have talked to go "thats alot of cash" but I think if you are into your car for $10,000+ your tools at $3,000+ etc. the cost of this is really small compared to the costs it will save you as you pull you own wrenches.

This and and a full set of air tools and my garage would be a place I never would leave. I got so pissed this summer with having to lay under the car so much for the tranny/clutch issue that I have not touched it since. This lift would have made the whole deal easier for sure.

Would you buy one if you could?

Deep_Blue
11-17-2005, 08:51 AM
Yes, yes I would.

I should add it to my shanty garage and make a ghetto garage paradise.

Tim

bboy_leathel
11-17-2005, 08:52 AM
sounds cool go 4 it would be good for repairs under the cars to :thumbup: good find

Supra_devil
11-17-2005, 08:59 AM
i plan on having one for my garage

James Earl
11-17-2005, 10:04 AM
GROUP BUY! LOL





sorry just posting because I can

grandmaster
11-17-2005, 11:49 AM
i'd buy a hammock to string underneath...then I'd be able to still lie down and work...
and It would take away that claustrophobic feeling I get lieing underneath a lowered car

Deep_Blue
11-17-2005, 03:50 PM
You guys seem pretty ready to put yourselves at risk underneathe a cheap stand. This is one thing that I don't think I'd skimp on in putting a garage together. Hence why it belongs in my ghetto garage.

Tim

Deep_Blue
11-17-2005, 03:50 PM
You guys seem pretty ready to put yourselves at risk underneathe a cheap stand. This is one thing that I don't think I'd skimp on in putting a garage together. Hence why it belongs in my ghetto garage.

Tim

Deep_Blue
11-17-2005, 03:51 PM
You guys seem pretty ready to put yourselves at risk underneathe a cheap stand. This is one thing that I don't think I'd skimp on in putting a garage together. Hence why it belongs in my ghetto garage.

Tim

Deep_Blue
11-17-2005, 04:50 PM
You guys seem pretty ready to put yourselves at risk underneathe a cheap stand. This is one thing that I don't think I'd skimp on in putting a garage together. Hence why it belongs in my ghetto garage.

Tim

James Earl
11-17-2005, 04:54 PM
4 posts for that eh? Hummm

Deep_Blue
11-17-2005, 04:58 PM
I wanted to be really sure that you understood the risks, and the ghettoness of my garage.

If smearing an advertising message all over your face works for companies, it can work for me too ;)

Tim

EDIT: Not sure hot to delete them either.... oh well, I never said I wasn't a post whore! :D

bboy_leathel
11-17-2005, 05:11 PM
i feel safe i'm under them all the time

Deep_Blue
11-17-2005, 05:36 PM
I'm talking about the above pictured model specifically. Normal $20 000+ hoists with back up locks don't bother me at all, even though I've seen stuff under them as well. Either would be safe if you have jackstands supporting the car in alternate support spots like I normally do, but with items where safety is an issue, such as these ones, I like to pay top dollar.

Tim

bboy_leathel
11-17-2005, 05:46 PM
maybe ur right but iv'e been under the crapy ones to and the suprisingly strong and stabble

bboy_leathel
11-17-2005, 05:54 PM
a 10'000 lb hoist with back up locks cost 3,800 installed thoughs are the standerd hoists for all mechanic shops like action,midas,speedythrifty,and mcdonald muffle all use the same hoists

Deep_Blue
11-17-2005, 05:56 PM
I've seen the good ones drop cars. But I just don't like to put my life up to fate

I mean, if it's something that you felt comfortable with, that's cool. Just saying that I wouldn't be particularly excited about it.

Tim

James Earl
11-17-2005, 06:13 PM
I'm talking about the above pictured model specifically. Normal $20 000+ hoists with back up locks don't bother me at all, even though I've seen stuff under them as well. Either would be safe if you have jackstands supporting the car in alternate support spots like I normally do, but with items where safety is an issue, such as these ones, I like to pay top dollar.

Tim

I looked into that and this particular site does not mention any sort of safety certification. I did also price out a used 4 post here in Edmonton for $6,000 (not far off the price of the mentioned one after shipping & exchange). Paying top dollar does not mean you are getting the best just that you paid the most. “Martizing” comes to mind on that subject.

Black_fin
11-17-2005, 06:31 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/Drewduffer/weird396.jpg

James Earl
11-17-2005, 06:39 PM
Thats a two post eh? Coulda paid for the extra posts & saved the hastle. LOL :thumbup:

bboy_leathel
11-17-2005, 11:26 PM
i think a 2 post is the safiest ones if u set the arms right thoughs cost 3,800 but mind u iv'e been under them my hole life

Deep_Blue
11-17-2005, 11:42 PM
You're taking my posts too darn literally these days Earl. :D

Top dollar doesn't necessarily mean top dollar, much like 100k didn't mean 100k in my other post.

They're hyperboles.

Cheers,

Tim

P.S. The accident I saw also involved a Jeep, well, one of them anyway. I sense a conspiracy of some sort.... you know what to do Herby,,, :badger: :ugh:

Supra_devil
11-18-2005, 12:17 AM
i worked at a shop for almost 3 years, the only time there was any issues (never had an dropped cars or near misses) but the only time there was an concerns was when the arms/car where positioned improperly to evenly distribute the weight OR had one set (front/rear) arms too long which caused more flex in the arms than we were comfortable with.

In all these cases the vehicles were quite large, a car like a supra, even the heavier mk3's are nothing to these hoists and the size of the car is good for most hoists.

James Earl
11-18-2005, 08:21 AM
i think a 2 post is the safiest ones if u set the arms right thoughs cost 3,800 but mind u iv'e been under them my hole life

For a home user I think the mobil 4 post would work best. A 2 post is good if you want to have it perminently built into a shop, but I would rather not dig up my garage floor every time I move.

bboy_leathel
11-18-2005, 12:45 PM
i agree that it is alot harder to install and take apart a 2 post hoist but imagen how much easyer it would be to maybe fix ur tires or if u ever rotate them u can't do that with a 4 post eles u want to spend like almost $7,000 on a 4post hoist with the double lift arm

James Earl
11-18-2005, 01:16 PM
Well now that you mention it...one of the lifts I looked at had Jack stand supports so you can put the car on stands then raise it to easy working hight for tires & brake work...sort of sux you would have to jack up the car that is on a jack but still the work would be done fast for me if it was a reasonable height.

A two post would need support poured down through the floor of the garage...most 4 posts for light duty would not need this as they would have a larger foot print than the car tires and as a result have less pressure per inch on the cement.

The more I talk about it the more I want one. You could park your supra for the winter with your DD below it both in a cozy garage and to work on it just lower it. It makes me tingle with joy just to think about it.

OK now I have said too much...please forgive me. :hyper:

bboy_leathel
11-18-2005, 01:49 PM
just to have a garage would make me happy i have to park my supra outside one's it's done

Malaria
11-18-2005, 04:59 PM
we just got a new 2 post lift at work and they just drilled into the floor and secured it with bolts, i have been useing these lifts for quite a while and the only issue i've had was with big trucks like the avalanch and expeditions, for normal cars just use the right lift spots on the chasie and you shouldnt have a problem, in the pic above that happened because the person using the lift didnt make sure the arms were locked in, if the lift was in propor condition and used right there should be no problems and no diffrences in safty between a 1, 2 and 4 post lift.

James Earl
11-18-2005, 05:52 PM
cool..that reminds me I need a part from you. The gear set from the thranny you got from Dave...he says the one in your tranny will fit and match the diff you are running....so can I have it?

CanuckDave
11-19-2005, 12:44 AM
thats just it, its all about the placement of the lift spots, the dealership I worked at used single post lifts for the most part, and I never heard of anybody having problems with them, or having a car drop off the lift.

Malaria
11-20-2005, 06:14 PM
ya for sure earl just let me know when u want to come by, i work till 4:00 pm mon-fri so anytime after is good, i live on the north side btw :D so if u want to meet up im cool with that :P

ELNagro
11-21-2005, 05:32 PM
Aslong as it has safty locks, it wouldnt be on the market if it didnt, then nothing can go wrong welll something could go wrong but aslong as ur not stupid and rember to lock it in place u'll be fine. You should def. buy one though i work under them all day long and omg its so much easier then doin it at my house with just jackstands, I want one but maybe i should buy my own house first lol.