my clutch feels rough...

[azazel]

well, for starters, im driving an 85 mkII.

whenever i shift, it shifts rough, and, as im sure you all are aware as im sure this is a common problem, my clutch pedal squeaks and cannot be unsqueaked.

so i figure im gonna get the clutch switched out. i was quoted at stampede toyota for 1300 for the clutch to be redone + install.

does anyone have any other options of ideas for how i can do this without spending too much money? if you have anyone in the calgary area who do this for a living (yeah right) or have done this before and know of good quality work at a good price, please let me know. i wanna know how much im lookin to spend.

plus i dont know how much life she has left.

[annoyingrob]

rough shifting isn't usually a problem with the clutch. Sounds more like your slave cylinder is going, or possibly a bent clutch fork.

Explain the rough shifting a little more. Does it grind a little when trying to get it into gear? Is it difficult to push into gear? does it make noises (other than squeaking) when up or down?

[Supra_Soul]

Edit: Nevermind, I mistook you for Keegan. Your names are too similar.

[azazel]

haha yeah... i noticed that too when i first signed on. we had a nice chat about that.

umm.. well basically i have to floor the clutch pedal to make it even go into any gear then when i get it in, i have to put it in slow, then each gear after that its harder to shift into. third is the worst, then fourth is rough, then i get a high rev, it lowers, the goes normal. the commute to work blows. and im afriad im gonna burn out something with all the stop and go traffic.

[Supra_Soul]

Sounds to me like your clutch isn't disengaging properly. This could be caused by air in the clutch line, bad master/slave cylinder or a bent fork like Rob said. First thing I would do is bleed the clutch lines. Just crack the bleeder screw on the slave open and let gravity drain it into a bucket. Make sure the master doesn't get empty though.

[azazel]

ive got a buddy whos a mechanic and he is planning on helpin me with this one, he figures im gonna need a new clutch period.

should i just replace it with new parts? clutch, pressure plate release bearing and maybe flywheel?

[Supra_Soul]

Personally I think it's a waste of money to just start throwing parts at a problem, but it does usually work. Machining the flywheel is alot cheaper.

[azazel]

just curious about temper'd steel vs. alluminum.

i found one at http://www.ultrarev.com/product.php?productid=80040

thoughts?

[suprago]

Sounds like you need to bleed your clutch system.
Where is the squeek coming from? The pedal as you push it down or the clutch as you are pushing it down , or when you have pushed it down??
If you are having problems getting into gear from a standstill, or if you don't have your revs right on when you change gear, it's usually a sign of the clutch not disengaging as much as it should, so your engine is still trying to drive the transmission. In a normally working system this would be the same as you trying to change gear while only pushing the clutch down half way. Gear stick doesn't want to go where you try and push it.
After prolonged use the hydraulic systems can get air in the fluid, air compresses so the thing(s) on the end of the system don't move as far as they should.
Causes are low fluid level in the clutch master cylinder, which allows air into the system, or very old hydraulic fluid or anything else which can allow air into to the system. A blown or leaking seal in the clutch slave cylinder can drop the level in the system and cause your symptoms.
Look for low fluid level in the clutch master cylinder, leaking fluid around the slave cylinder.
If the squeek is coming from the clutch itself it could be the throw out bearing, that's the device that transfers the pressure that you put on the clutch pedal to the clutch itself, or possibly the pilot bearing that holds the front of the transmission drive shaft in place.
If it's a bearing issue then it means taking out the transmission and replacing the bearings. Fun, but good for the character. Also good for new swear words.

[azazel]

hah thats wild. thanks for the wealth of information. who wants to put wagers on it and see whats going on with it at the bbq?

:P

basically it squeaks when i push the clutch pedal down to the floor to change gears. i figure it was just a worn spring? i know its probably major. my 85 celica had the same problem. man i love this car...

[Keros]

I'm going to bet that the problem is alot simpler and cheaper than a new clutch. If you spent 1300 replacing the clutch entirely, it would be a shame to find out later that the old one was flawless and 15 bucks worth of clutch fluid would have fixed the problem...

[azazel]

trust me,i'd feel the same way. and i am in no way, shape, or form a baller willing to drop moneys like that for a new clutch.

lets just make some educated decisions at the bbq, ney?

[Supra_devil]

if you have to floor the clutch pedal and its still shifting rough then it is most likely one of three things

air in the clutch system, quick and easy to bleed, one bleeded screw, make sure to keep the resevoir topped up (it uses brake fluid BTW)

leaking slave or master cylinder. leaking master cylinder isn't uncommon. if one of these is the case then make sure to bench bleed before installing on the car otherwise there is a chance that there will be air in the system.

those are the most common anyways, they are all easy to check for and won't cost you anything to diagnose.

[Keros]

I saw Ryan drove the car in question... but I never did hear the diagnosis.

Anyone know any details? I'm curious to learn :-D

[Funkycheeze]

First off, the freeplay of the pedal needs adjustment

then I would bleed the system and check for leaks - if it still slips, maybe an inspection of the clutch itself is in order